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15th February 09, 09:45 AM
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Laces are not made in the same way as cord, the older type normally have an outer tube of very fine interwoven threads surrounding a fairly soft core, the ends are clamped, formerly with a metal end - these days using a plastic glue and shrink wrap tube.
Flat laces are simpler, and are a thin woven braid, but again are not the same as cordage.
There was a fairly widespread corset industry in the Midlands, along with shoe and boot making, which might have been sufficient to maintain the making of laces for both these products close at hand.
When I lived in Leicestershire I worked for Allied Lyons at 'Symingtons Soups', and another branch of the family had owned 'The Corset Factory' in the town centre. I saw an old film on TV fairly recently, there were hundreds of films of everyday work and play discovered and conserved almost my accident, and the workers leaving the Corset Factory was one of them.
Anne the Pleater
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15th February 09, 03:02 PM
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And there again!!
 Originally Posted by Hamish
There! I have always maintained that those wretched items of footwear were not 'traditional' - but I did not know the history of the laces! Many thanks for the detailed information.
Take care,
Ham.
And there again!!!! Hamish has spoken!!!!
I DID not want to have to buy the a pair of those evil things anyway.
Weasel
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15th February 09, 10:14 PM
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Wow, thanks Rex. I've just found the house where I was born in Crawley, England. Just a blury 2d pic in GoogleEarth. can't wait to show the kids in the morning. www.multimap.com - love it.
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15th February 09, 10:57 AM
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Yes, all of this can be incorperated into the drama of the musical.
The tightening of corsets; the inventing of traditions; the weaving of laces... all in choreographed dance and song!
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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15th February 09, 11:03 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
Yes, all of this can be incorperated into the drama of the musical.
The tightening of corsets; the inventing of traditions; the weaving of laces... all in choreographed dance and song!
I think you're on to something, Ted.
The corset factory scene would most certainly make a great second act opening number, just when things started to unravel at the end of the first.
Regards,
Rex.
At any moment you must be prepared to give up who you are today for who you could become tomorrow.
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15th February 09, 12:40 PM
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Oh good grief - I can visualise it so clearly, the curtain goes up, then the doors opening and the women streaming out onto the stage, just like the scene in Carmen outside the tobacco factory.
Anne the Pleater
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15th February 09, 02:56 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by Pleater
Oh good grief - I can visualise it so clearly, the curtain goes up, then the doors opening and the women streaming out onto the stage, just like the scene in Carmen outside the tobacco factory.
Anne the Pleater
ROFLMAO
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16th February 09, 07:38 PM
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 Originally Posted by Pleater
Oh good grief - I can visualise it so clearly, the curtain goes up, then the doors opening and the women streaming out onto the stage, just like the scene in Carmen outside the tobacco factory.
Anne the Pleater
Exelent, Pleater. Oh the drama of symbolism!
Is it true, Pleater, what they say about corsets...?
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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16th February 09, 07:49 PM
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Post removed by English Bloke...
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16th February 09, 07:16 PM
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Keep in mind gentlemen, that a magazine article is not proof of any sort!
Some say elements of the film 'Braveheart' are historically accurate, or the like.
There are no links to anything (if anything), Therefore (though I am not saying it) it is possible that MacMillan could make it up himself, but I highly doubt that.
The article shows (though not very well) that this man made the shoes, but not that he invented them.
Neither in the post nor in the article are there citations.
I remain skeptical.
More research must be done on my part for me to say otherwise.
Last edited by Bonnie'an'Blue; 16th February 09 at 07:19 PM.
Reason: typo
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