Diced hose for daywear?

[macwilkin]

It seems like most would agree that the red/black hose look briliant with a military style kit but look a fool with civilian colthing.

Robertson Hunting looks almost exactly like this tartan, being military i like to stick to what im comfortable with so i pretty much look to the RRoS when laying out my clothes when going kilted (aka lovat green hose and military oxfords or almost military brouges) during the day. i would like to rock the red/black hose but until i get a mess type jacket i have no real need.

There is nothing wrong with red & black diced hose with mufti formal rig, Trey.

T.

[Dall_Piobaire]

Wouldn't it be far more historically, and in that sense traditionally, appropriate to go nuts mixing and matching? Look at the precedence for tartan jackets in totally not matching colours! Either way, matters not much to me as I am very nearly colour blind, makes for a great excuse.

On a related note, as a piper, with a financially irrespoinsible and unrealistic desire to be correct as possible over several periods, I seek the wisdom and insight of those present. My avatar is Modern Boyd, much red and green, with navy blue, livery colours are azure on argent. Suggestions on the best look for diced hose...anyone, please?


Thnxs
Scott

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

In civilian life chiefs, chieftains, and lairds (the duine uasail, or "gentlemen of the clan") are generally entitled to pipe banners. These should display the arms over the whole banner. The ribbons (and cords) of the pipes should reflect the livery colours of the pipe banner. For those interested, a chief has three pipers, a chieftain two, and a duine uasail one piper. Only the senior piper of a chief or chieftain, as well as the piper of a duine uasail, bear the pipe banner, which is attached to the tallest drone by ribbons. The pipe banner is only displayed when the chief, chieftain, or duine uasail is personally present.

[Dall_Piobaire]

Only the senior piper of a chief or chieftain, as well as the piper of a duine uasail, bear the pipe banner, which is attached to the tallest drone by ribbons. The pipe banner is only displayed when the chief, chieftain, or duine uasail is personally present.

This I did not know, thank you!

[SlackerDrummer]

In civilian life chiefs, chieftains, and lairds (the duine uasail, or "gentlemen of the clan") are generally entitled to pipe banners. These should display the arms over the whole banner. The ribbons (and cords) of the pipes should reflect the livery colours of the pipe banner. For those interested, a chief has three pipers, a chieftain two, and a duine uasail one piper. Only the senior piper of a chief or chieftain, as well as the piper of a duine uasail, bear the pipe banner, which is attached to the tallest drone by ribbons. The pipe banner is only displayed when the chief, chieftain, or duine uasail is personally present.

From Lyon's website:

PIPE BANNERS

These are banners of personal arms but cut slanted at the top to fit against the big drone and hang down the piper's back. They are used by most Chiefs and Lairds who have personal pipers, and by the Highland regiments whose company commanders' pipe banners are displayed on the regiment's pipes. The correct usage is for the arms to fill the entire banner to its edges, but some regiments have different customs, such as showing the whole achievement including supporters, or the crest alone. Such traditions are now hallowed by the centuries and are permitted. The Pipe Majors of local government or works pipe bands may display their appropriate pipe banner of the corporation or company's arms. A pipe banner should be 30 centimetres wide and the short side should be 45 centimetres long.

Where the pipe banner is for a Clan Chief who is a Peer or a Scottish feudal baron, the pipe banner should have a rounded end extending beyond the 45 centimetre length. Where the banner is for a Clan Chief who is not a Peer or a Scottish feudal baron it should have a split rounded end.

Some regimental pipe banners have traditionally adopted a rounded end and where that has been done in the past it should continue. If there is no such tradition, and for pipe banners in all other cases, the end should be straight rather than rounded.

Scott,

Is anyone who would currently be allowed a TD by Lyon considered a Laird? If so, I would suggest a pipe banner should be allowed to anyone with land who can afford their own private piper (which still limits it considerably).

[Dall_Piobaire]

From Lyon's website:


Scott,

Is anyone who would currently be allowed a TD by Lyon considered a Laird? If so, I would suggest a pipe banner should be allowed to anyone with land who can afford their own private piper (which still limits it considerably).

Hmmm well... suppose, if they had arms. The banner is a means to display the arms, and is considered the personal property and identity of he to whom it is granted. So, one cannot use a banner, at least with the arms on it, without explicit permission of it's owner, which is why I assume it is only dieplayed when he is present.
Our clan chief is laird Kilmarnock I actually wrote Laird Kilmarnock, but he passed not long after the letter was sent! Didn't really think He woulld grant thier use, but what the heck!

[SlackerDrummer]

Hmmm well... suppose, if they had arms. The banner is a means to display the arms, and is considered the personal property and identity of he to whom it is granted. So, one cannot use a banner, at least with the arms on it, without explicit permission of it's owner, which is why I assume it is only dieplayed when he is present.

I thought all of that went without saying. Should have made that more clear.

[Dall_Piobaire]

I thought all of that went without saying. Should have made that more clear.

I might not have picked up on what you were putting down!

[llyd]

I love that grey tartan with the black and grey hose....my next kilt is going to be something similar...