Bogus commercial heraldry....

**Rex_Tremende** · 12th June 08, 03:30 PM

I don't know...

This Tremende Coat of Arms that my dad purchased has been hanging on the family walls for, oh, at least two generations.

I'm having trouble understanding why it can't be passed on to another.

And on...

Regards,
Rex.

**Jock Scot** · 13th June 08, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rex_Tremende

I don't know...

This Tremende Coat of Arms that my dad purchased has been hanging on the family walls for, oh, at least two generations.

I'm having trouble understanding why it can't be passed on to another.

And on...

Regards,
Rex.

Well done Rex!

**Ozman1944** · 10th June 08, 09:29 AM

I've often wondered if our friends in Australia have the same feelings

As an Aussie, we don't care at all for such stuff; Although as a joke people will often buy a "Family" coat of arms and display it over the "throne" in the toilet, but I have never seen one ever displayed seriously in an Australian's home.
Although I come from a 'free' State, (South Australia never had convict settlers. only bona fide immigrants) , We all nationally share a disdain for anyone trying to claim social superiority. Coat of arms, titles etc, Aussies are totally unimpressed and "underwhelmed"

**CelticMedic** · 11th June 08, 07:12 AM

In the interest of designing an all-encompassing Seal/Coat of arms may I suggest a Fig Leaf and Apple and/or a monkey in a tree depending on where you think we come from. I mean if we REALLY want to trace our ancestry back...LOL.

**Ayin McFye** · 11th June 08, 08:18 AM

I think a good question to post to this thread is, you have to ask yourself if you believe that a clan's tartan belongs to a family or not. I think if you believe that a clan "owns" a specific tartan, then I would probably think that you believe that a Coat of Arms belongs to a person or family.

If you believe that no family technically "owns" a tartan, and anyone can wear whatever tartan they want, then I would think that you can use what ever Coat Of Arms you want.

The truth is that heraldry is something very real, and can be attributed to a person identity. Most kings of both the medieval and modern eras had a coat of arms that belonged to them.

Even as far back as the Ancient Roman Legions, they had signifiers that were specific to their legions and cohorts.

Irish counties each have a different coat of arms that they use. I would like to find out who all these people are "registering" their coat of arms with, and I would personally purchase from them. Most of these online companies are probably fake, and just trying to make a buck, but I'm sure there is a real place somewhere.

I would like to get my family's coat of arms tatooed on me, but I would obviously like to make sure that the COA that i'm getting is accurate and not some website's twist of it so that they can sell it.

Anyways, I've babbled on long enough.

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 11th June 08, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ayin McFye

I would like to get my family's coat of arms tatooed on me, but I would obviously like to make sure that the COA that i'm getting is accurate and not some website's twist of it so that they can sell it.

So do the basic genealogy, trace back to your last provable Scottish or Irish ancestor, and apply for arms in the appropriate jurisdiction. When arms are granted, head off to the local ink slinger... couldn't be easier than that.

**Ayin McFye** · 11th June 08, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

So do the basic genealogy, trace back to your last provable Scottish or Irish ancestor, and apply for arms in the appropriate jurisdiction. When arms are granted, head off to the local ink slinger... couldn't be easier than that.

Not a bad idea at all. Thanks for the suggestion!