PC with a black four in one tie?

[Rogerson785]

OK, would you ever wear your PC with a black four in one tie at less formal events if one is not in procession of an Argyll Jacket or Braemar Jacket?

My local brewery always has a member’s only Christmas party and it is never Black Tie but I want to wear my kilt.

[BonnieT100]

I would say no to that one. Wouldn't look right. It's one of the reasons I went with the Argyle. It's like the Army Dress Blue uniform. You can wear it during the day with a four-in-hand tie or for an evening formal with a bow tie. The PC is more like the Mess Dress uniform, which is basically a formal tux - bow tie only, please.

[JS Sanders]

Ditto with BonnieT100.

A black Argyll jacket with its usual accoutrements and you'll be the finest dressed gent there.

Always understatement before overstatement.

Slainte,
steve

[svc40bt]

I would tend to wear a bow tie only as the PC is the tail coat for highland dress, however there are a couple of examples on this recent thread that should allow you to form your own opinion. These being, after all, just very wide long ties with a large four-in-hand knot.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/r...ighlight=ruche

As I almost never go to formal affairs, I have been checking the thrift stores for a brown tweed to convert for occasions such as you describe. No luck so far.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Making it 5 for 5, I'd say definitely do not ever wear a four-in-hand tie with the PC. The jacket is designed to be worn with a bow tie. A day wear jacket is fine with a four-in-hand, but evening wear requires a bow tie.

[Rogerson785]

Stop the tread, I have seen the light and will see if my work wife will convert my grandfathers sportscoat into a suitable casual kilt coat.

[Bugbear]

Oh good, someone finally compared the Prince Charlie to the tailcoat or dress coat instead of a tuxedo; that's been bothering me.

I wonder if the wearing of a PC without a waistcoat, but a silver waistplate and dress belt is proper? I come across that now and then.

[davedove]

OK, would you ever wear your PC with a black four in one tie at less formal events if one is not in procession of an Argyll Jacket or Braemar Jacket?

My local brewery always has a member’s only Christmas party and it is never Black Tie but I want to wear my kilt.

I'll agree with the others and say the tie doesn't really go with a Prince Charlie.

Does everyone else at the event dress in jackets? If it's more casual you could even wear a nice sweater with your kilt.

Of course, the well dressed gentleman SHOULD get a less formal jacket for just these occasions.

[Macman]

I wonder if the wearing of a PC without a waistcoat, but a silver waistplate and dress belt is proper? I come across that now and then.

I think it is, Ted, but I'm afraid I'm in the minority! I actually like it both ways (but just not both together).
I'd echo what davedove said. There may be acceptable alternatives to a jacket for this event, such as dress shirt and tie.

[Bugbear]

Thanks, Macman.