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23rd January 09, 10:58 AM
#1
Silver Musketball buttons: Aye of Nae?
A mucker has suggested silver musket ball buttons for use on my PC jacket and weskit.
I quite like the idea but some questions:
Would they look good?
Would they be too heavy?
I am a military gentleman, but I don't fire a musket, plus there are units who wear musket balls on their uniforms (and blazers) might I appear to be stealing their glory?
The 'Eathen in his idleness bows down to wood and stone,
'E don't obey no orders unless they is his own,
He keeps his side arms awful,
And he leaves them all about,
Until up comes the Regiment and kicks the 'Eathen out.
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23rd January 09, 11:15 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Courtmount
A mucker has suggested silver musket ball buttons for use on my PC jacket and weskit.
I quite like the idea but some questions:
Would they look good?
Would they be too heavy?
I am a military gentleman, but I don't fire a musket, plus there are units who wear musket balls on their uniforms (and blazers) might I appear to be stealing their glory?
Which units would those be?
Todd
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23rd January 09, 02:45 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Which units would those be?
Todd
As mentioned above RHA and I sure one of the pre-amalgamation Gurkha Regiments used to (black coloured) although I can't remember which one.
1/2 ball buttons would look like... buttons... so not much point. I'd be going for silver because it would patinate (or whatever the technical term is)
The 'Eathen in his idleness bows down to wood and stone,
'E don't obey no orders unless they is his own,
He keeps his side arms awful,
And he leaves them all about,
Until up comes the Regiment and kicks the 'Eathen out.
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23rd January 09, 11:50 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Courtmount
A mucker has suggested silver musket ball buttons for use on my PC jacket and weskit.
I quite like the idea but some questions:
Would they look good?
Would they be too heavy?
I am a military gentleman, but I don't fire a musket, plus there are units who wear musket balls on their uniforms (and blazers) might I appear to be stealing their glory?
INTERESTING. I do "fire" Muskets (as well as rifles & pistols) so I pulled out a "few" of my "ROUND BALLS" ( .45 cal (pistol rifle cal.s to .75 cal (musket cal.) Here is my "take"
1. True "musket balls" are cast from soft pure LEAD.
A. Even though when "freshly cast & polished, they are shinny, they OXIDIZE RAPIDLY.
B. Lead would stain your clothing.
C. Therefor, you would have to cast them in Pewter,German Silver or Silver.
2. Weight ?? ( based on them not being LEAD)The smaller buttons (.45, .50, .52) would not be overly heavy. But the LARGER buttons ( .60 - .75) would be "weighty"
3. LOOKS = IMHO,
A. NO LEAD round balls!!
B. Round Balls on a PC would "cheapen" the look.
C. 1/2 round would look GREAT. (there are a number of makers who cast 1/2 rounds
Puffer
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23rd January 09, 11:56 AM
#5
I have seen buttons on a doublet that were round balls, certainly. I wouldn't think they would be at all odd; in fact, if they were made of silver, they would be quite appropriate and valuable heirlooms. Too many "experts" think that buttons on doublets "must" be the ubiquitous diamond shaped ones.
Sandford
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23rd January 09, 12:44 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
I have seen buttons on a doublet that were round balls, certainly. I wouldn't think they would be at all odd; in fact, if they were made of silver, they would be quite appropriate and valuable heirlooms. Too many "experts" think that buttons on doublets "must" be the ubiquitous diamond shaped ones.
Sandford
Ironically I was just thinking of those stylish salmon buttons...
Todd
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23rd January 09, 02:49 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
I have seen buttons on a doublet that were round balls, certainly. I wouldn't think they would be at all odd; in fact, if they were made of silver, they would be quite appropriate and valuable heirlooms. Too many "experts" think that buttons on doublets "must" be the ubiquitous diamond shaped ones.
Sandford
So have I and I must say I was jealous!
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24th January 09, 10:49 PM
#8
I would agree with Jock Scot, JSFMACLJR and others above. In the British military I have seen buttons of every shape/size/colour/metal and all with their own pedigree. Don't forget that standardisation is a relatively modern phenomenom and garments and their accroutements where subject to a greater amount of personal taste in the past.
"O, why the deuce should I repine, and be an ill foreboder?
I'm twenty-three, and five feet nine, I'll go and be a sodger!
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26th January 09, 07:27 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
I have seen buttons on a doublet that were round balls, certainly. I wouldn't think they would be at all odd; in fact, if they were made of silver, they would be quite appropriate and valuable heirlooms. Too many "experts" think that buttons on doublets "must" be the ubiquitous diamond shaped ones.
Sandford
Here, Here!
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26th January 09, 08:24 PM
#10
Just a caveat here, Silver turns black very quickly, especially in the presence of sulphur. The best thing would be to polish them, and let them start to tarnish (maybe fasten them to a piece of wood and run them through several cycles of the dishwasher?) then coat them with clear lacquer.) That plus the weight would be my only concern.
IMHO they would look great!
The pipes are calling, resistance is futile. - MacTalla Mor
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