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    Question Going to court...

    I got a subpoena today, I didn't do it! Lemme explain...

    To make a short story kind of long.....
    Back in November, I interrupted 2 juveniles in the act of stealing stuff from my garage. I 'detained' one of them for a bit till the sheriffs came, the other fled with an item. The deputies found him in a few minutes though. I pressed charges, and they were proccessed at county juvenile.

    The one I detained (age 16) had no record, and his family was in the process of moving out of the state, so on the advice of the DA I dropped the charge.

    I got a call about the other kid shortly after that, He was 13 or 14 and had two prior arrests, one involving drugs. The DA's plan is to ask the judge to send him to a "Boot Camp" where hopefully he will learn something. This was like 3 months ago.

    I figured it was a done deal, but today I get served to appear as the 'victim'
    in the case!

    What's this got to do with kilts??
    Well, since I'm kilted almost full time, I always say if I get called for jury duty I'd go kilted, knowing full well I'd be viewed as an 'eccentric' and likely not get picked.
    But since I am trying to help the State do something with this delinquent, my gut feeling is that I should not stand out in a way that might detract from the business at hand. It won't kill me to conform for one day, dust off my one nice business suit and dress like a lawyer.

    (with a loud tie of course )
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    dress like a lawyer.
    Well latterly I usually wore a black kilt in Court when I practised as a lawyer, but I do know lawyers who wear tartan kilts to Court.
    If you were wearing a kilt at the time of the incident it would seem appropriate to be kilted to give evidence.
    Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cessna152towser View Post
    Well latterly I usually wore a black kilt in Court when I practised as a lawyer, but I do know lawyers who wear tartan kilts to Court.
    If you were wearing a kilt at the time of the incident it would seem appropriate to be kilted to give evidence.
    I think I can say with some degree of certainty, that no attorney in Fort Bend County goes into a courtroom kilted!

    As it happens I was wearing old torn up jeans at the time of the incident, I'd been loading rotten lumber on a truck. I was kilted when the detective came by to get my formal statment at my home, and the only comment he had was "what tartan?"
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    I agree with you Zardoz, why be a distraction. Let the kid have his day in court.

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    Discretion is the better part of valor. Just because you are entitled to doesn't mean you should... I am a lawyer, and when I appear in court, I won't even wear a bow tie [I loves me my bow ties...in most circumstances where I feel I must wear a business suit that does not include a kilt, I wear a bow tie not only as a matter of style, but also as a show of defiance. But, if I am in front of a jury, or I need the favorable attitude of a judge, I wear an understated business suit, and an understated tie. I think you should follow your instinct to avoid distracting from the business at hand.

    On the other hand, that having been said, it sounds like you are asked to appear at a sentencing-type hearing where they are after a "victim impact statement", and want your input as to what you think of what they propose to do with the young miscreant. It doesn't sound like your credibility will be the issue, it sounds like your views of the proposed disposition are the key thing, so it would seem that you have more lattitude, so the "distraction" of distinctive cultural dress won't adversely impact the proceedings. Based on that, I guess it really comes down to what you think you should do! O.K., I just took you through all of that to say "whatever"...sorry...
    "Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.

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    I would say if you dont feel comfertable goin to court in a kilt not to bother but on the other hand if you are kilted almost full time then I would say go for it.

    just my tuppence

    Jordan
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    He kens na where the wind comes frae,
    But he kens fine where its goin'.

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    I agree with your first assesment of the situation. In this case I'd say it's better to not be a "distraction" in the courtroom and let the attention fall on the delinquent. Now, sitting on the jury kilted would be another matter all-together.
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    Why not call the DA and ask what they suggest. I always tell clients to dress comfortably. Generally, this means khakis and a nice shirt. Keep in mind, a distraction is one thing. If the DA is seating a jury, you might put someone off and the decision might not go your way. Of course, its hard to tell where your case is in the process. So, call the DA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan View Post
    I would say if you dont feel comfertable goin to court in a kilt not to bother but on the other hand if you are kilted almost full time then I would say go for it.

    just my tuppence

    Jordan
    I agree with you, Jordan.

    Since taking to the kilt full-time some 25 years ago, I now don't own any other choice of garment. This means that, were I chosen for jury duty, say, I would have no option but to wear a kilt. It's me.

    John

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    Woofwoof In Bichon Frisé dogbreed that means;
    "I don't know what goes on in a courtroom. I know what goes on outside the courtroom. I think most of the conversation is what goes on outside the courtroom. I'll be myself inside the courtroom (should I have to go into one). That means I'll likely be kilted.

    Now this bridge is not in front of me, it's facing you, so my opine is to Kilt up, modestly, and make the court appearance. It's just another day. Additionally, having questions to one's self about the appropriateness of a kilt in our American court seems to me to be a manifestation of self-doubt.

    Therefore, either quash the doubt, take courage, be filled with confidence and self respect; or, slip into the pants and wonder forever after why you didn't go with your gut and kilt on.

    Isn't it the function of the courts to the find truth, legal truth within the facts of the issue being scrutinized? How does apparel or fashion change the finding of justice?
    Is someone in the courtroom a fashion cop who wants particular styles to prevail in the system?arf"
    Go, have fun, don't work at, make it fun! Kilt them, for they know not, what they wear. Where am I now?

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