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    Want help with material weight

    Could you explain the weight of fabric? Is that ounces per liner yard? If so, how do you compare when some fabric comes in wider rolls then others.

    Also how can I find out the weight if it is not marked on the roll without actually weighing it. I see a lot of the rolls do not tell the weight, or I at least can't find it. Is it coded some way?


    Finally.. what weights are good for the various kilts, such as the Amerikilt Cotton, Wool and PV light weight for summer and heavier weights for winter?

    What weights does Bear and USA Kilts use and why?

    Thank you!

    Please be as detaild as need be.

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    You get the weight of wool (by taking a yard of the material "doublewide" (approx 56" to 60") and weighing it. That gives you the material weight. I'm not sure how else you can get the weight without weighing it... aside from just feeling it and giving a guess.

    We (USAKilts) use different weights and types of material. Our most popular material is our PV (Poly Viscose). I do not know the actual weight of the material, but I'd be willing to give an educated guess at about 11 OZ.

    I hope this helps.

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    The specified weight of any fabric, is the weight of one linear yard (or meter, depending on where it was woven) as it comes off the bolt, regardless of width.

    Material from a bolt of 24" goods, that is said to be 8oz. will be the same thickness as material from a 48" bolt of goods rated at 16oz.

    Without the experience to be able to tell from the feel of the cloth, weighing a yard of the material is the only way I can think of.

    When bying yardage in person, if the specific weight of the fabric is not on the bolt of goods, I go by the feel of the cloth. Thick/heavier for colder weather, thin/lighter for warmer weather.

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    Yep Ant has the same understanding I do yard of the cloth square yard as i understand it.

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    Re: Want help with material weight

    Anthony... well done on the reply!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAllen
    What weights are good for the various kilts, such as the Amerikilt Cotton, Wool and PV light weight for summer and heavier weights for winter.
    Anything less than 11 ounces will not sway well (unless the pleats are VERY deep) or hang with uniformity. If you have a four yard kilt in a light cotton... don't sneeze. The kilt will fly up. Remember that a 4 yard wool kilt and an 8 yard cotton twill kilt will act fairly similar. It's a matter of material quantity when you're comparing the two. Common sense really.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAllen
    What weights does Bear and USA Kilts use and why?
    Here's the specs from Marton Mills:
    Marton Mills Poly Viscose Balmoral Tartans

    Weave: 2/2 Twill

    Weight: 375glm (250gsm) 11oz

    Useable width: 150cm

    Features: Low-Pill™ fibre technology, Teflon® finish as standard.

    Now, take that width... divide it by two... and do the math for the "wearing-weight" of a kilt. Then, factor-in the actual kilt yardage (4-9) to determine the "bulk" of your desired need.

    Also From Marton Mills on their fabrics (for those with these kilts):

    Features: With a soft handle and solid performance at a good price, this is the choice of many garment manufacturers. In response to the demands of the industry, Marton Mills has developed polyester/viscose into a state-of-the-art blend. In conjunction with an Indonesian spinning mill, we have developed Low Pill™ fibre technology, which eliminates pilling on the surface of the fabric during normal wear. Furthermore, every piece of polyester/viscose is finished with DuPont Teflon® as standard, thus maximising stain resistance.

    Dyeing: fibre dyed / piece dyed / package dyed

    Wash fastness: excellent

    Light fastness: excellent

    Wash/care: wash at 40 degrees, iron on 2 dots (medium iron), can be dry-cleaned. Fabric conditioner unnecessary and not recommended.
    Arise. Kill. Eat.

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    Want help with material weight

    Could you explain the weight of fabric? Is that ounces per liner yard? If so, how do you compare when some fabric comes in wider rolls then others.

    Also how can I find out the weight if it is not marked on the roll without actually weighing it. I see a lot of the rolls do not tell the weight, or I at least can't find it. Is it coded some way?


    Finally.. what weights are good for the various kilts, such as the Amerikilt Cotton, Wool and PV light weight for summer and heavier weights for winter?

    What weights does Bear and USA Kilts use and why?

    Thank you!

    Please be as detaild as need be.

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    You get the weight of wool (by taking a yard of the material "doublewide" (approx 56" to 60") and weighing it. That gives you the material weight. I'm not sure how else you can get the weight without weighing it... aside from just feeling it and giving a guess.

    We (USAKilts) use different weights and types of material. Our most popular material is our PV (Poly Viscose). I do not know the actual weight of the material, but I'd be willing to give an educated guess at about 11 OZ.

    I hope this helps.

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    The specified weight of any fabric, is the weight of one linear yard (or meter, depending on where it was woven) as it comes off the bolt, regardless of width.

    Material from a bolt of 24" goods, that is said to be 8oz. will be the same thickness as material from a 48" bolt of goods rated at 16oz.

    Without the experience to be able to tell from the feel of the cloth, weighing a yard of the material is the only way I can think of.

    When bying yardage in person, if the specific weight of the fabric is not on the bolt of goods, I go by the feel of the cloth. Thick/heavier for colder weather, thin/lighter for warmer weather.

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    Yep Ant has the same understanding I do yard of the cloth square yard as i understand it.

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    Re: Want help with material weight

    Anthony... well done on the reply!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAllen
    What weights are good for the various kilts, such as the Amerikilt Cotton, Wool and PV light weight for summer and heavier weights for winter.
    Anything less than 11 ounces will not sway well (unless the pleats are VERY deep) or hang with uniformity. If you have a four yard kilt in a light cotton... don't sneeze. The kilt will fly up. Remember that a 4 yard wool kilt and an 8 yard cotton twill kilt will act fairly similar. It's a matter of material quantity when you're comparing the two. Common sense really.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAllen
    What weights does Bear and USA Kilts use and why?
    Here's the specs from Marton Mills:
    Marton Mills Poly Viscose Balmoral Tartans

    Weave: 2/2 Twill

    Weight: 375glm (250gsm) 11oz

    Useable width: 150cm

    Features: Low-Pill™ fibre technology, Teflon® finish as standard.

    Now, take that width... divide it by two... and do the math for the "wearing-weight" of a kilt. Then, factor-in the actual kilt yardage (4-9) to determine the "bulk" of your desired need.

    Also From Marton Mills on their fabrics (for those with these kilts):

    Features: With a soft handle and solid performance at a good price, this is the choice of many garment manufacturers. In response to the demands of the industry, Marton Mills has developed polyester/viscose into a state-of-the-art blend. In conjunction with an Indonesian spinning mill, we have developed Low Pill™ fibre technology, which eliminates pilling on the surface of the fabric during normal wear. Furthermore, every piece of polyester/viscose is finished with DuPont Teflon® as standard, thus maximising stain resistance.

    Dyeing: fibre dyed / piece dyed / package dyed

    Wash fastness: excellent

    Light fastness: excellent

    Wash/care: wash at 40 degrees, iron on 2 dots (medium iron), can be dry-cleaned. Fabric conditioner unnecessary and not recommended.
    Arise. Kill. Eat.

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