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    Kilt weight 16 oz 18 oz

    Hello,

    I have an ex Hire Kilt acquired is to be made of wool and 16 oz 8Yard fabric.
    In kilt itself is no sign of the origin or the material.

    My question: What is the weight at the Kilt: Waist 40",Length 25", 8 Yard, 16oz?

    Seller not responding to demand, but provides the kilt as wool 16oz 8 Yard at.
    I have my doubts.

    Perhaps the experts can help me here.

    Dragon Heart

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    An 8 yd., 16 oz. kilt should weigh at least 4 lbs.

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    Not sure what you mean by the title of your post. I think you can pretty much guarantee that, if it is an ex-hire kilt, it won't be 18 oz (i.e., won't be regimental weight).

    Also - not clear whether you actually have bought the kilt and are not getting answers from the seller or you are thinking of buying it and not getting answers from the seller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T View Post
    Not sure what you mean by the title of your post. I think you can pretty much guarantee that, if it is an ex-hire kilt, it won't be 18 oz (i.e., won't be regimental weight).

    Also - not clear whether you actually have bought the kilt and are not getting answers from the seller or you are thinking of buying it and not getting answers from the seller.
    So, I have exactly two Kilt bought after I read somewhere here in the forum can be used when making quite good at Ex Hire a start with good kilt.

    Kilt 1 of this
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401172501930

    Kilt 2 is this
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401171783686

    Today I received this and am not convinced of the material.

    After the response of CCK I've looked at the package and both kilt together weigh <> 2.5 Kg!

    So can not come with 16oz wool kilt or?

    Since I have found several damages that can be repaired by a Kiltnäher course I want arguments have to ask the seller for withdrawal or replacement.

    Many thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Heart View Post
    Kilt 1: 13oz., woven by House of Edgar, here: http://www.houseofedgar.com/acatalog...ed_Plaids.html

    Kilt 2: woven by House of Edgar, here:
    https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/ta....aspx?ref=3789
    sold exclusively here:
    http://www.thekiltcentre.com/popups/tartan/st-blue.html

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    The weight of fabric is the weight in ounces of a length of one yard of double width (54 inches) fabric.

    If you measure along the lower edge of the kilt in yards and then find the upper to lower edge in inches it is possible to calculate what the various weights of cloth should measure.

    For instance - lower edge 7.5 yards length 24 inches of 13 oz fabric.

    Calculation is 13 times 7.5 times 24 divided by 54 equals 43 ounces, or 2lb 11oz (1.23kg) of fabric. Added to that is the weight of the lining and the canvas, which should be part of the finished kilt as a reinforcement, plus the straps and buckles.

    Anne the Pleater
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    Anne,

    The width of the fabric used in the weight calculations is not standard. I know of two weavers who weave 60 inch wide fabric and use 60" X 36" = one fabric yard.

    This is also why some weavers list their fabric at 15oz.

    In practice I have used 60"x 36" as sort of a standard when figuring out fabric weights. This helps because it give a nice fudge factor for apron facings/waistbanding/straps & buckles/thread.

    I also know of one weaver who measures their fabrics in metric and lists their fabrics not in oz per yard but in grams per meter².

    All very confusing for newbies.
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    Based on what I'm reading here, and thank you Barb for the other threads as well, we should be able to determine any sample of fabric weight by:

    1944 ...... area ......... 1944 being 54x36 and area being that of the fabric sample
    ____ = ______
    Xoz ....... weight ........ Xoz being the unknown and weight being that of the sample

    therefore, if I had a 12 inch length of 54 width tartan weighing 3.2 oz

    1944 ...... 635 ........... (1944x 3.2) / 635 = 9.79 or approx. 10oz weight
    _____ = ______
    Xoz ........ 3.2oz

    That same length/width of cloth weighing 5.23oz would be a 16 oz weight: (1944x5.23)/635 = 16.01
    which, by common check, a third of a yard (12") weighing about a third of 16oz hardly needs the calculation done as was also for the 10oz example. But, both examples give credence to the formula.

    an eight yd 24" kilt, area 24x(36x8))= 6912, should by the formula weigh at least 3.56 lbs to be 16 oz, more given buckles, liner and such ...so the approximately 4lb estimate.

    Or you could ask an old kiltie, who would pick it up and say something like...yep, weighs about a 16oz
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    Not disputing, just curious - how do we determine the weight of a fabric? Is there a mathematical formula?

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    Member, Scottish Tartans Authority
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    The Art of Kiltmaking at http://theartofkiltmaking.com

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