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21st March 25, 09:16 AM
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21st March 25, 09:58 AM
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 Originally Posted by MacKenzie
Those silly Scottish Scots in Scotland and their puffy pirate Jacobite shirts. Don' they know those aren't historically accurate? ;-)
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21st March 25, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by User
Those silly Scottish Scots in Scotland and their puffy pirate Jacobite shirts. Don' they know those aren't historically accurate? ;-)
Depends on how far back you research. One of the oldest known paintings with Mongo Murray wearing a kilt had a puffy sleeved shirt. I'm sure it was all for glam as a part of the painting... but yes, nothing like the "Jacobite" shirts of today. I mean, in that period, most paintings were already completed prior to the face portion... so it may have been just a rendition of what the artist would have thought they would wear at the time. A recreation of a shirt from that period might have been a very long (down to the mid-thigh) wearing t-tunic with long sleeves that go just past mid-forearm.
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21st March 25, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by spr0k3t
Depends on how far back you research. One of the oldest known paintings with Mongo Murray wearing a kilt had a puffy sleeved shirt. I'm sure it was all for glam as a part of the painting... but yes, nothing like the "Jacobite" shirts of today. I mean, in that period, most paintings were already completed prior to the face portion... so it may have been just a rendition of what the artist would have thought they would wear at the time. A recreation of a shirt from that period might have been a very long (down to the mid-thigh) wearing t-tunic with long sleeves that go just past mid-forearm.
I was just doing a bit of tongue-in-cheek. I don't claim to know what's historically accurate.
But OC Richard seems firm in his belief that Jacobite shirts aren't historic Scottish attire, and I haven't seen any of the Scottish historians disagree.
https://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/...33#post1410633
And:
https://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/...origins-98430/
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21st March 25, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by User
OC Richard seems firm in his belief that Jacobite shirts aren't historic Scottish attire....
He's far from being the only one.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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22nd March 25, 12:42 AM
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To be honest, I don’t care for the pirate/ ghillie shirt style, in consequence, I don’t wear them. What others choose to wear is entirely their choice and if they want to look like a refugee from a film set, then, so be it. However, there are most certainly times when the ghillie shirt is not appropriate.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 22nd March 25 at 01:37 AM.
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22nd March 25, 04:45 AM
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At the end of the day you have to ask yourself “Is this something I would choose to wear as my normal everyday dress?” Or is the correct question more like “I feel like I am already in fancy dress wearing a kilt so wearing a ‘pirate shirt’ adds to the overall impression”
Posts such as Panache’s definitely convey this view that it is something to wear when wishing to give a fancy dress impression for whatever reason but not, maybe, for everyday wear.
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