The Frugal Corner?

[Kilted-Marine]

"Great pipes"...at $135.00. I can't even begin to count the number of wanna-be pipers I've met who have been conned into buying Pakistani crap pipes from people like you only to discover that they've been cheated out of their money on a trash set that couldn't even be played without an additional $300-$400 worth of bags, reeds, and chanters, and even then can't be tuned and still wouldn't be worth the sum of it's parts. The lowest retail I would ever point an aspiring student towards would be P2 Dunbars at $855.00 US. Learning to play the pipes is difficult enough on a rock-steady quality set, and virtually impossible on a $135.00 **** set of crap! But then, if you know anything about your product and your market, you already know that, don't you?

You sir are either a cheat and a liar, or an incompetent that hasn't the least friggin' clue about the products he sells. Yeah; given the opportunity, I'd be more than happy to look you in the eye and repeat that to your face.

Thank you sir for the kind words. I stand by my assertion. These are good pipes for beginners who wantsto find out if bagpipes might be something they are interested in or even as a set for instructors for students and at a price under $125 the worse case would be they would end up being a great addition to put up over the fireplace. Out of the 25 or so sets we have sold 1 has been returned with problems, eveybody else has left good comments. We have never had to sell more products to FIX issues. Again i believe for the money (not much more then a tank of gas) a person can get a nice pair of bagpipes that they won't feel to bad about tossing into the closet beside a pile of work out equiptment after they decide bagpies are not for them.Stop by our booth at the Minnesota Highland Games and We can have a drink together

Thank you and have a great day
Mark

[keepoffgrass]

Thank you sir for the kind words. I stand by my assertion. These are good pipes for beginners who wantsto find out if bagpipes might be something they are interested in or even as a set for instructors for students and at a price under $125 the worse case would be they would end up being a great addition to put up over the fireplace. Out of the 25 or so sets we have sold 1 has been returned with problems, eveybody else has left good comments. We have never had to sell more products to FIX issues. Again i believe for the money (not much more then a tank of gas) a person can get a nice pair of bagpipes that they won't feel to bad about tossing into the closet beside a pile of work out equiptment after they decide bagpies are not for them.Stop by our booth at the Minnesota Highland Games and We can have a drink together

Thank you and have a great day
Mark

Just my two cents here, but... I think Marks being pretty cool about all this, hes even willing to send a set out for review. The bottom line is however, that most people don't have or aren't willing to shell out a grand on a set of pipes if they're thinking about learning to play. I understand that the true pipers in here have a problem with cheat pipes, but someone who just wants a set a pipes to "play with" or check out isn't likely gunna shell out $800+ on something he or she might not ever seriously get into. And the majority of people in here, or any where for that matter are going to fit into that category. I curious what the ratio of "serious pipers" to people thinking it would be cool to have a set of bag pipes is in here, about a 1 in every hundred or so? its cool you're passionate guys, but be realistic. most people buying these pipes aren't ever going to be a great piper, or have any aspirations of the such. they just want a cheap set of pipes to play with