Quote Originally Posted by ChromeScholar View Post
Do yourself a favor and look for anything from these folks. (I especially recommend The Czar imperial stout, Collaboration not Litigation ale, and the IPA) Drink their beer for a month or so, then go back and try a Guinness.

I've not had the pleasure of trying anything from Avery but in general, most craft brewing establishments (thankfully Pennsylvania is littered with them) produce beer that is worlds better than any of the mass marketed products out there. This may be heresy to many, but after drinking many good stouts and porters, I've always found Guinness to be kind of like water. Now don't get me wrong, I will sometimes drink Guinness but usually only when the restaurant doesn't have anything better.