Anyone know this kilt vendor in UK?

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 20th February 08, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by McClef

One of the reasons for the price is that they are stock tartan kilts and "hand finished" i.e. largely machine sewn and have only a limited range.

Their 8 yard made to measure kilts are £240 + VAT which would be more the average.

I don't know of any Gold Bros places that far down the High St upon that side - Cockburn St is on the left going down and is below GT/21CK and past John Knox's House.

Like Greg I am tempted - I like the look of the MacMillan!

Thank you, we are a handsome race of men. If, however you were referring to the tartan described as Modern MacMillan or some such, you have been mis-led. It is not a MacMillan tartan. As Fedgunner has said, it is a kick *** tartan, but it most definitely isn't a MacMillan tartan.

**Phil** · 21st February 08, 03:05 AM

I couldn't resist it. They are a reputable company and are definitely nothing to do with the Gold Bros. They have shops all over Scotland and also own Romanes & Paterson (which burnt down recently). They are not really mainstream highlandwear but do keep a limited amount, mainly for the tourist trade, but I would regard it as very acceptable quality. I got a pair of clan hose there a few years back for about £25.

**MrLion** · 21st February 08, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Phil

I couldn't resist it. They are a reputable company and are definitely nothing to do with the Gold Bros. They have shops all over Scotland and also own Romanes & Paterson (which burnt down recently). They are not really mainstream highlandwear but do keep a limited amount, mainly for the tourist trade, but I would regard it as very acceptable quality. I got a pair of clan hose there a few years back for about £25.

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Thanks Phil.....and GG for your shared experiences with this vendor.
I will keep them my on my wish list now.
(wishes waiting for funding. sound familiar?).
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McClef, I'm still looking forward to your review of the one you just ordered.

**McClef** · 21st February 08, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by MrLion

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McClef, I'm still looking forward to your review of the one you just ordered.

Officially MacMillan or not you shall have it in due course MrLion!

**McClef** · 21st February 08, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

Thank you, we are a handsome race of men. If, however you were referring to the tartan described as Modern MacMillan or some such, you have been mis-led. It is not a MacMillan tartan. As Fedgunner has said, it is a kick *** tartan, but it most definitely isn't a MacMillan tartan.

This is what it looks like https://www.woollenmill.co.uk/acatal...MacMillan.html and yes it's a kick-*** tartan all right. I will have to try and find out more about the nomenclature.

I still like it or I wouldn't have ordered it but when asked by people seeing me wearing it I would like to give them an accurate answer.

**McClef** · 21st February 08, 04:54 AM

I found this on the Scotweb site - http://kiltstore.net/sr_swhdr_eighty...ame=Ma:stage=2
and, allowing for all the usual variation problems with pictures/monitors etc the sett and colours appear to be the same.

So perhaps it is a MacMillan tartan after all.. :buttkick:

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 21st February 08, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by McClef

I found this on the Scotweb site - http://kiltstore.net/sr_swhdr_eighty...ame=Ma:stage=2
and, allowing for all the usual variation problems with pictures/monitors etc the sett and colours appear to be the same.

So perhaps it is a MacMillan tartan after all.. :buttkick:

Nope. There are three MacMillan tartans: Dress (yellow and red) Hunting (predominately green) and Ancient (which looks something akin to Buchanan without the white stripe), and that's it.

Both the Buchanan and the MacMillan tartans are offset, with a green background. This tartan has a "square" sett and a black background.

The so-called "MacMillan" tartan (also marketed as Modern MacMillan) owes more to Buchanan as the white stripe of that clan remains, albeit re-positioned to the center of the sett, bisecting the background.

It would probably be more accurate to describe this tartan as "Black Buchanan" than to call it a "Modern" MacMillan.

The final arbiter of what constitutes MacMillan Tartan is the Chief of the Clan MacMillan who has made it clear that this is not a MacMillan tartan.

Now, if you'll just turn around and grab your ankles... :buttkick:

**McClef** · 21st February 08, 01:54 PM

Well I was trying to point out that that the tartan is on more than one kilt supplier website so the nomenclature is not just down to the one source.

Certainly the yellow stripe is reminiscent of Buchanan but no doubt the Clan Chief would equally reject it as such.

So is the MacMillan Clan Chief able to do anything about this? I guess that could be difficult.

I still like it so guess I will have to find a name for it. Harold MacMillan was a British Prime Minister so maybe I will call it "Harold MacMillan Modern" or something.

There isn't much point in us kicking each other butts over it and I am not expert enough to gainsay the objections that you raise. I have cited two separate suppliers and as one of them is Nick (Scotweb and STA) maybe he can supply some light on the situation?