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21st February 08, 03:05 AM
#11
I couldn't resist it. They are a reputable company and are definitely nothing to do with the Gold Bros. They have shops all over Scotland and also own Romanes & Paterson (which burnt down recently). They are not really mainstream highlandwear but do keep a limited amount, mainly for the tourist trade, but I would regard it as very acceptable quality. I got a pair of clan hose there a few years back for about £25.
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21st February 08, 04:11 AM
#12
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Thank you, we are a handsome race of men. If, however you were referring to the tartan described as Modern MacMillan or some such, you have been mis-led. It is not a MacMillan tartan. As Fedgunner has said, it is a kick *** tartan, but it most definitely isn't a MacMillan tartan.
This is what it looks like https://www.woollenmill.co.uk/acatal...MacMillan.html and yes it's a kick-*** tartan all right. I will have to try and find out more about the nomenclature. 
I still like it or I wouldn't have ordered it but when asked by people seeing me wearing it I would like to give them an accurate answer.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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21st February 08, 04:54 AM
#13
I found this on the Scotweb site - http://kiltstore.net/sr_swhdr_eighty...ame=Ma:stage=2
and, allowing for all the usual variation problems with pictures/monitors etc the sett and colours appear to be the same.
So perhaps it is a MacMillan tartan after all.. :buttkick:
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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21st February 08, 10:30 AM
#14
It's Cool, But It Ain't MacMillan
 Originally Posted by McClef
I found this on the Scotweb site - http://kiltstore.net/sr_swhdr_eighty...ame=Ma:stage=2
and, allowing for all the usual variation problems with pictures/monitors etc the sett and colours appear to be the same.
So perhaps it is a MacMillan tartan after all.. :buttkick:
Nope. There are three MacMillan tartans: Dress (yellow and red) Hunting (predominately green) and Ancient (which looks something akin to Buchanan without the white stripe), and that's it.
Both the Buchanan and the MacMillan tartans are offset, with a green background. This tartan has a "square" sett and a black background.
The so-called "MacMillan" tartan (also marketed as Modern MacMillan) owes more to Buchanan as the white stripe of that clan remains, albeit re-positioned to the center of the sett, bisecting the background.
It would probably be more accurate to describe this tartan as "Black Buchanan" than to call it a "Modern" MacMillan.
The final arbiter of what constitutes MacMillan Tartan is the Chief of the Clan MacMillan who has made it clear that this is not a MacMillan tartan.
Now, if you'll just turn around and grab your ankles... :buttkick:
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21st February 08, 01:54 PM
#15
Well I was trying to point out that that the tartan is on more than one kilt supplier website so the nomenclature is not just down to the one source.
Certainly the yellow stripe is reminiscent of Buchanan but no doubt the Clan Chief would equally reject it as such.
So is the MacMillan Clan Chief able to do anything about this? I guess that could be difficult.
I still like it so guess I will have to find a name for it. Harold MacMillan was a British Prime Minister so maybe I will call it "Harold MacMillan Modern" or something.
There isn't much point in us kicking each other butts over it and I am not expert enough to gainsay the objections that you raise. I have cited two separate suppliers and as one of them is Nick (Scotweb and STA) maybe he can supply some light on the situation?
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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21st February 08, 02:48 PM
#16
Thanks for the feedback on this vendor
 Originally Posted by Phil
I couldn't resist it. They are a reputable company and are definitely nothing to do with the Gold Bros. They have shops all over Scotland and also own Romanes & Paterson (which burnt down recently). They are not really mainstream highlandwear but do keep a limited amount, mainly for the tourist trade, but I would regard it as very acceptable quality. I got a pair of clan hose there a few years back for about £25.
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Thanks Phil.....and GG for your shared experiences with this vendor.
I will keep them my on my wish list now.
(wishes waiting for funding. sound familiar?).
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McClef, I'm still looking forward to your review of the one you just ordered.
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21st February 08, 04:15 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by MrLion
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McClef, I'm still looking forward to your review of the one you just ordered.
Officially MacMillan or not you shall have it in due course MrLion! 
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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22nd February 08, 06:24 AM
#18
Very Important if you are ordering from the Woolen Mill!
I checked with the Woolen Mill and their preferred method of shipping to the US is UPS. So beware of tarrifs. They will if requested send the item Royal Mail so make sure you ask.
Further info on their "value" line of kilts. The kits are made from 16 oz Marton Mills fabric. Not Scottish but at least the UK and it is quality goods.
Thought you would want to know.
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22nd February 08, 07:00 AM
#19
Well it's just arrived! 
Pretty good as it was only ordered on Wednesday night!
It was sealed in a plastic bag that was inside a rigid UPS cardboard box and in turn within a plastic CityLink bag and delivered by one of their Couriers.
Having unpacked it I got out my camera to capture initial shots.
The front apron.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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22nd February 08, 07:02 AM
#20
The rear pleats. No basting stitches but then you would not normally expect them on an "off the peg" item.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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