Hands Aff Oor Kilts!

**macwilkin** · 29th February 08, 07:36 AM

On the one hand, I certainly can see their point -- but, as others have pointed out, there are quality kiltmakers outside of Scotland who make just as good of a kilt. Of course,the difference is that many of these kiltmakers are not making false claims of "kilts designed in Scotland" that the tartan tat trade is doing.

Even Prince Charles owns a RCAF tartan kilt, made for him by Burnett & Struth in Ontario.

While I agree with it in principle, I do have some misgivings about the practical side of it.

T.

**Pour1Malt** · 29th February 08, 08:50 AM

'Scotch' is already protected....

ya cannae mak whisky outside Scotland an' ca' it 'Scotch'...

actually so arr 'Whisky, Champagne, Bourbon, Abroath Smokies, Port' and many other things...

this is yet anither thing that needs tae bae defined.

A Scottish Kilt is a Scottish Kilt.

**Jock Scot** · 29th February 08, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Pour1Malt

'Scotch' is already protected....

ya cannae mak whisky outside Scotland an' ca' it 'Scotch'...

actually so arr 'Whisky, Champagne, Bourbon, Abroath Smokies, Port' and many other things...

this is yet anither thing that needs tae bae defined.

A Scottish Kilt is a Scottish Kilt.

Thank you P1M,just as I thought.I don't recall people getting too hot under the collar over the examples above,so why should we do so, over the kilt?I also agree that a Scottish kilt, made in Scotland, is a Scottish kilt.

**macwilkin** · 29th February 08, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Thank you P1M,just as I thought.I don't recall people getting too hot under the collar over the examples above,so why should we over the kilt?

I think the concern is for some that legimate overseas kilt makers, such as Burnett & Struth, Barb T., Kathy Lare, Matt Newsome, etc. will somehow be "branded" along with the tartan tat types. Mind you, none of these folks claim to produce a "Scottish kilt" per se, but their quality, attention to detail and respect for the customs and traditions of Highland attire should not be lumped in with the Gold Brothers and their ilk.

T.

**Jock Scot** · 29th February 08, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

I think the concern is for some that legimate overseas kilt makers, such as Burnett & Struth, Barb T., Kathy Lare, Matt Newsome, etc. will somehow be "branded" along with the tartan tat types. Mind you, none of these folks claim to produce a "Scottish kilt" per se, but their quality, attention to detail and respect for the customs and traditions of Highland attire should not be lumped in with the Gold Brothers and their ilk.

T.

I totally agree that the skilled kilt makers that you have mentioned above and without doubt there are many others too, dotted around the world are caught in the crossfire here.I am sure it is not beyond the "wit of man" to come up with a solution to recognise their undoubted skills.As to the the Gold Brothers and their ilk,I make no comment.

**macwilkin** · 29th February 08, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

I totally agree that the skilled kilt makers that you have mentioned above and without doubt there are many others too, dotted around the world are caught in the crossfire here.I am sure it is not beyond the "wit of man" to come up with a solution to recognise their undoubted skills.As to the the Gold Brothers and their ilk,I make no comment.

Aye, Jock.

T.

**Pour1Malt** · 29th February 08, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

I totally agree that the skilled kilt makers that you have mentioned above and without doubt there are many others too, dotted around the world are caught in the crossfire here.I am sure it is not beyond the "wit of man" to come up with a solution to recognise their undoubted skills.As to the the Gold Brothers and their ilk,I make no comment.

aye Jock....

Bourbon is a fine drink... but ya wuid ne'er ca' it Scotch!

**macwilkin** · 29th February 08, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Pour1Malt

aye Jock....

Bourbon is a fine drink... but ya wuid ne'er ca' it Scotch!

Robertson,

I do hope you're not insinuating that because a Newsome, Lare, etc. kilt is not made in Scotland, it is somehow inferior to one made there. These individuals I mentioned in an earlier post take great pride in the craft, and in the case of Matt, is a font of knowledge in terms of Highland dress.

I do hope this is not your insinuation.

T.

**Jack Daw** · 29th February 08, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

I think the concern is for some that legimate overseas kilt makers, such as Burnett & Struth, Barb T., Kathy Lare, Matt Newsome, etc. will somehow be "branded" along with the tartan tat types. Mind you, none of these folks claim to produce a "Scottish kilt" per se, but their quality, attention to detail and respect for the customs and traditions of Highland attire should not be lumped in with the Gold Brothers and their ilk.

T.

I agree fully.

**JakobT** · 2nd March 08, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by Pour1Malt

'Scotch' is already protected....

ya cannae mak whisky outside Scotland an' ca' it 'Scotch'...

actually so arr 'Whisky, Champagne, Bourbon, Abroath Smokies, Port' and many other things...

this is yet anither thing that needs tae bae defined.

A Scottish Kilt is a Scottish Kilt.

I agree that a Scottish Kilt is a Scottish Kilt, but part of that definition, as described in the article, is that it MUST be hand sewn, and MUST be made from 100% wool, and there is nothing intrinsically Scottish about those two things. I would certainly call Howie's TFCK kilts Scottish, as they're made in Scotland, but if this definition is applied, this would not be allowed, since they're machine sewn, and not all of them are 100% wool.