What is Traditional Highland Dress?

[ThistleDown]

Hey, I was only going by what members of this forum who live in Scotland have said on a number of occasions.

Yes, for sure for sure. I sometimes think that we tell you that so you can be surprised when you see one of us in our native habitat still in full pelt. "Oh look (pointing) there's a kilt!" We charge for quick pics, did you know?

The key is that those of us who do wear Highland dress are not to be found on the High Street in full panoply. We are at home feeding the hens and undertaking other mundate tasks.

Changing subject: good heavens that's a fine knowledge of American furniture you have!

Rex

[Red Stag]

Baseball caps have been around for 150 years. See this article. How about a nice cashmere ball cap?

[artificer]

Baseball caps have been around for 150 years.

Syphilis has been around longer... It doesn't make it better.
According to 'Wiki', the hat style only became popular with the advent of latex foam rubber... I think that, pretty much, says it all.


As an item of apparel, it's nothing short of ghastly.

Should you need to fix your truck or mow the lawn (which I enjoy), by all means, wear away. Don't pretend that the 'cap' is a functional item of apparel for the gentleman.

[macwilkin]

Syphilis has been around longer... I doesn't make it better.
According to 'Wiki', the hat style only became popular with the advent of latex foam rubber... I think that, pretty much, says it all.


As an item of apparel, it's nothing short of ghastly.

Should you need to fix your truck or mow the lawn (which I enjoy), by all means, wear away. Don't pretend that the 'cap' is a functional item of apparel for the gentleman.

Plenty of gentleman, my grandfather included, wore baseball caps during WWII. I suppose the Japanese thought the P-61 Black Widow he worked on was far more gastly than his headgear.

We're all Jock Tamson's bairns.

T.

[artificer]

Plenty of gentleman, my grandfather included, wore baseball caps during WWII. I suppose the Japanese thought the P-61 Black Widow he worked on was far more gastly than his headgear.
T.

I personally know plenty of gentlemen in law enforcement who wear the 'cap' as part of their duty uniform who would take exception to your statement.

Gentlemen, apologies if I have offended. However, I do believe you've mis-interpreted the general tack here. Both of these are examples showing the baseball style cap as part of a uniform. I'd wager that neither of the gentlemen in question wore/wear it where inappropriate.
a)It would be against regulations to wear a casual cap to a 'Class A' function.
b)I doubt the gentleman in law enforcement would wear his duty cap to a 'Policemen's Ball'.

My grandfather worked the railroads for 40+ years (after returning from the war) and frequently wore a baseball style cap in the summers, and wore whatever he could to keep himself warm in winter, HOWEVER, apart from fishing, you'd never see him in that style of cap.

A Gentleman is aware of his situation and surroundings, and dresses to best meet them. Wearing a baseball cap (which isn't part of a uniform or workwear ) indoors, at meals, etc, etc, IS inappropriate.

(Edit: what, the "baseball cap" has evoved even further? Moving onward from the "ball" cap, it is now simply called "the cap"? Just anothwer step towards acceptance as tradition, I say. But, in my ignorance and with much shuddering, I must ask: what is a Chav?)

Unfortunately, the baseball cap is quite nearly the only style of cap to be found these days. Everything else, presumably, is a hat. It may be a tradition, but only in it's proper place. Everywhere else it's a fashion no-no.

A brief summary of the term 'Chav' can be found HERE.

[macwilkin]

Gentlemen, apologies if I have offended. However, I do believe you've mis-interpreted the general tack here. Both of these are examples showing the baseball style cap as part of a uniform. I'd wager that neither of the gentlemen in question wore/wear it where inappropriate.
a)It would be against regulations to wear a casual cap to a 'Class A' function.
b)I doubt the gentleman in law enforcement would wear his duty cap to a 'Policemen's Ball'.

My grandfather worked the railroads for 40+ years (after returning from the war) and frequently wore a baseball style cap in the summers, and wore whatever he could to keep himself warm in winter, HOWEVER, apart from fishing, you'd never see him in that style of cap.

A Gentleman is aware of his situation and surroundings, and dresses to best meet them. Wearing a baseball cap (which isn't part of a uniform or workwear ) indoors, at meals, etc, etc, IS inappropriate.



Unfortunately, the baseball cap is quite nearly the only style of cap to be found these days. Everything else, presumably, is a hat. It may be a tradition, but only in it's proper place. Everywhere else it's a fashion no-no.

A brief summary of the term 'Chav' can be found HERE.

Perhaps then you should tone down your generalizations about everyone who wears a ball cap. As you state above, my grandfather knew the time and place to wear casual headgear, as do I. I wore one with an NPS arrowhead emblem with our Class B uniforms when working in the field, but I wouldn't dare wear one with the Class A's at an official ceremony or when presenting a campfire program to tourists.

As OC Richard mentioned, many pipe bands now wear ball caps with their logo when they are not performing or competing. I have an Iowa Scottish Pipes & Drums ball cap, for example.

If you're not a big fan of them, then fine. I'm really not a big devotee of them myself, although I do own several caps that I do wear in very casual circumstances. But that hardly makes me less than a gentleman.

Apologies for misunderstanding your words.

T.

[artificer]

...As you state above, my grandfather knew the time and place to wear casual headgear, as do I. ...

If you're not a big fan of them, then fine. I'm really not a big devotee of them myself, although I do own several caps that I do wear in very casual circumstances. But that hardly makes me less than a gentleman.

T.

I would argue that, because you DO know the time and place to wear one, it makes you MORE of a gentleman.

I am not personally a fan of the baseball cap, nor any other head-wear. I just don't have a 'hat head'. I'll start wearing hats when I go bald

(Finally!) Back to the topic. Nobody in their right mind can say that a baseball cap is Traditional Highland wear, and apart from a brief fad early in the last century, the flat cap falls into the same category.

I cannot imagine having the brass ones to tell a forum of actual Highlanders who have worn the kilt all their lives what is, or isn't Traditional Highland wear.

And cajunscot, you are correct. I was too sweeping in my generalization (or perhaps, not specific enough in my criticism). My apologies once more.

[BoldHighlander]

Don't pretend that the 'cap' is a functional item of apparel for the gentleman.

I personally know plenty of gentlemen in law enforcement who wear the 'cap' as part of their duty uniform who would take exception to your statement.

[artificer]

Changing subject: good heavens that's a fine knowledge of American furniture you have!

Rex

tis no' American furniture at' all. The Frenchies are responsible for 'da.
Most of American stuff is made of logs.

(I did, however, spend over a decade in ID {Interior Design}). Gods know, it's gotta be worth som'in'.

Don't bother ta' quiz me onna 'mid century modern' furnishings (American 50's-60's). I live THAT life.