celtic confederate jackets worm with kilts

[BoldHighlander]

and now among our own ranks, given our own "Federal Memorial Tartan".

I didn't know there was a Federal Memorial Tartan (heading over to google)...

Found it!

Federal Memorial Tartan

[greenfordranger]

Greetings from another proud SCV member & member of the MD Division Color Guard for the SCV. I often wear my Confederate Memorial tartan kilt in parades & ceremonies in Honor of our ancestors. We aren't reenacting but giving Honor to our ancestors & that was the idea behind the design of the Confederate Memorial tartan. Wear it how you see fit but just do one thing & wear it PROUDLY! Deo Vindice [><]

[OC Richard]

As people have mentioned, it's lucky for modern kiltwearers that shell jackets were so popular during the Civil War because they go great with the kilt.

I would think that the good ol' Government Tartan (aka Black Watch) or any blue-green based tartan in Modern Colours would look great with a grey jacket. If the Confederate Memorial tartan is grey-based then there would be, for my "fashion eye", too much grey going on, especially if the shades of grey kilt v jacket clashed.

As being from a Union family in West Virginia, it's nice that I have a historically correct kilted option:



Years ago I picked up a large brass waistbelt buckle, rectangular, a cast thistle pattern, and engraved on the plain centre "Scotch Rifle Guards".

There were, I understand, a number of militia companies before, during, and after the war who adopted such titles and whose "Scotch" appearance didn't go further than such buckles.

[Riverkilt]

With permission, here are pics of Sam Nesmith


And Rob Thiege


I also own a couple Confederate shell jacket replicas made up by Grand Illusions, but I've outgrown them. They make a nice kilt jacket on their own without any historic attempts.

[SlackerDrummer]

So let's not get too bent about historical accuracy until we find out the gentleman's intentions. [/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

I, too, am not bent out of shape. I have 8 direct and 28 collateral ancestors who fought in the Army of Northern Virginia, the direct male ancestor being Jefferson Mansfield of the 26th North Carolina, chronicled as follows in Flags of Civil War North Carolina regarding the first day's battle at Gettysburg:

All to a man were at once up and ready, every officer at his post, Colonel Burgwyn in the center, Lieutenant Colonel Lane on the right, Major Jones on the left. Our gallant standard-bearer, J.B. Mansfield at once stepped to his position four paces to the front and the eight color guards to their proper places. At the command "Forward, march!" all to a man stepped off, apparently as willingly and as proudly as if they were on review.

I am very proud of my ancestors, all of them (okay, maybe not all of them). But we wouldn't encourage anyone to wear any other non-Highland attire with a kilt - even, or perhaps especially, from the Victorian era. In fact we discourage it. Honor your Confederate (or Union) ancestors by wearing your SCV/SUV kit OR by wearing the Confederate (or Federal) Memorial tartan with highland attire. Pick a lane and do it well.

[greenfordranger]

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If you're wearing your shell jacket w/kilt to Honor your Heritage then you're in the right. But many would argue against you for wearing a kilt to reenact. No matter what the reason, wear your shell jacket w/your kilt proudly & fly your flag high [><]

[piperdbh]

If you're wearing your shell jacket w/kilt to Honor your Heritage then you're in the right. But many would argue against you for wearing a kilt to reenact. No matter what the reason, wear your shell jacket w/your kilt proudly & fly your flag high [><]

Bingo.

[macwilkin]

Thoughts from a self-proclaimed NPS "stitch-counter":

Whilst I appreciate the sentiments behind some of the posts in this thread regarding honouring heritage, let me present the other side of the coin. Please note that I am not doing it to make folks mad or offend, but instead, to offer another viewpoint.

We may know that folks wearing a kilt with Civil War kit isn't necessarily correct or a deliberate attempt to deceive folks, but remember, the general public is not as knowledgeable when it comes to such matters. I used to hear folks in the reenacting community justify their expensive hobby (and I was a reenactor too) by saying, "we're educating the public", yet these folks hardly did any research on material culture or other aspects of the period. These were also the folks with the outlandish costumes that attracted the public like flies to honey.

I have to agree with Slacker Drummer; wear your living history/reenacting kit, OR wear your Confederate or Federal Memorial Tartans with Highland attire. In NPS we were taught that you portray the "average" of a period in history as much as possible. I know that will offend some, but that's what I was taught from some excellent living history interpreters.

I'll go put on my Nomex now, and wait for the flames.

T.

[SlackerDrummer]

If you're wearing your shell jacket w/kilt to Honor your Heritage then you're in the right.

How does one "Honor your Heritage" by wearing an outfit was never a part of one's collective tradition? That is exactly the opposite of the intended purpose - a fact that seems to be dismissed because one simply wants to make a statement. Look up "honor" and then look up "heritage" and you'll find that this hodge-podge of an outfit doesn't fit the bill.

[SlackerDrummer]

And Rob Thiege

If you insist on wearing the kilt with the Confederate jacket, I think this is the best option. He is wearing it more or less like a Montrose doublet. I would however like to NOT see the bottom of the jacket below the sash and belt. The gray Glengarry bonnet is a good choice, but if we are talking about honoring one's heritage, he ought not be wearing it indoors.