Slackdrummer, my name is Adam. I usually only enter my name in a PM, no offense to anyone here but since you asked. That's not a chip on my shoulder, it's a MOUNTAIN Thanks Richard & I understand all points that were made I just don't agree w/them all. Cajunscot, I understand where you're coming from as well. You also have to remember the source for some of the things we read. Have you ever heard of re-construction? Thanks men as I've enjoyed this little debate as much as many Have a great weekend!