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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk View Post
    I wear one of these:



    It's plenty long. And in reality, I wear a feilidh-beag, which is more period correct for me.
    Oh, ok.
    I was worried you were wearing the belted plaid, and only the belted plaid...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbear View Post
    Oh, ok.
    I was worried you were wearing the belted plaid, and only the belted plaid...
    No, that's my toga. Well, I will admit that I wear that with a tankard of wine... It makes a great accessory. And then there's the strategically placed grape leaves.
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    Oddly enough, Hawk, I seem to remember reading that clothing was worn under the toga, as well.

    Um... your grape leaves are showing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacSpadger View Post
    If there is any interest, I can scan a picture of them and post it.
    Well, I'll cast my vote in favor of the motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morris at Heathfield View Post
    Well, I'll cast my vote in favor of the motion.
    Oh yeah- I was gonna mention that, too! I'd be interested to see some pictures.
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    Likewise!
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    I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."

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    Then it's settled. We demand pictures... and hopefully written descriptions.
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    OK, this pic is from Stuart Reid's 1994 book, Like Hungry Wolves, which has many good illustrations, but the actual clothing is in possesion of the National Museums of Scotland. Because the bodies were recovered from bogs, all the clothing has been stained varying shades of brown. That said, tests have shown that the two bonnets had been dyed with indigo, so they would have been dark blue when new. The head band of the bonnet from Lewis also was decorated with small knots of red wool. It has been suggested that this may be the precursor of the diced headband that came in later, but ah dinnae' ken aboot that ma'sel.

    From left to right, these clothes were taken from bodies found in Barrock in Caithness, Arnish Moor on Lewis and Gunister in Shetland. The men from Caithness and Lewis were, unfortunately, both murder victims. They had been killed by heavy blows to the head and then their bodies hidden in the bog. The two fellahs on the right are both wearing what appears to be knee length léine/léinte/shirts, with coats on top.


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    Thank you! I'm not certain what distinction (if any) there is between the léine and the ordinary long shirt worn in the early 18th century. Do you know anything about the color or material of the shirts/léinte worn by the Lewis and Shetland bodies? Also, is the plaid or cloak worn by the Caithness body tartan or solid color? I can't make out any tartan from the photograph. I note that none of these 18th century men appear to have been "redshanks".

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    To my understanding, the léine and the long shirt are one and the same.
    I'd suggest that it might be up to your own personal interpretation as to when a long shirt becomes a tunic.
    Museum specimens I have seen have always been linen, woven on a handloom, (obviously), and are the usual white/off white colour that you would expect from such a garment.



    {EDIT} As far as I know, there is no evidence of tartan in the clothing found on the bodies.

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